Comments on: Postmortem: Cacodemon’s Barbecue Party in Hell http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/postmortems/post-cacodemon Monthly Experimental Games Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:11:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Roman Alberto http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/postmortems/post-cacodemon#comment-968 Roman Alberto Mon, 02 Apr 2007 02:04:40 +0000 http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/?p=30#comment-968 nice site nice site

]]> By: petri.purho http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/postmortems/post-cacodemon#comment-967 petri.purho Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:12:33 +0000 http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/?p=30#comment-967 It might be SDL_rotozoom, but it should really be that slow. I know that software is pretty slow when compared to hardware accelerated 2d graphics, but I don't that thats the reason why it lags. I suspect it's because of my poorly done resource handling. I change the image of the kitten when it spins at a certain speed and every time I change it I load it from the hard drive. I know that this extremely stupid way of doing it, but at the time of the development my engine didn't support caching of the resources. At this moment there's a interface for doing the caching, but it doesn't have the implementation yet. I'm working at it :) I'll try to get that fixed on the next version of Cacodemon, which I'm also working at the moment. And thanks for the bug report :) It might be SDL_rotozoom, but it should really be that slow. I know that software is pretty slow when compared to hardware accelerated 2d graphics, but I don’t that thats the reason why it lags.

I suspect it’s because of my poorly done resource handling. I change the image of the kitten when it spins at a certain speed and every time I change it I load it from the hard drive. I know that this extremely stupid way of doing it, but at the time of the development my engine didn’t support caching of the resources. At this moment there’s a interface for doing the caching, but it doesn’t have the implementation yet. I’m working at it :)
I’ll try to get that fixed on the next version of Cacodemon, which I’m also working at the moment. And thanks for the bug report :)

]]> By: Decipher http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/postmortems/post-cacodemon#comment-966 Decipher Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:22:31 +0000 http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/?p=30#comment-966 Well as you told it exactly lags from time to time. And I think I also find something. I remarked that when the kitten spins it gets even slower and that has nothing to do with your code but the SDL_rotozoom's code. Well I have used SDL a lot but am not that familiar with SDL_rotozoom, and I pretty much think that < SDL_ Series > suck; I prefer to use my own engine. Well that's it and yeah test build works < almost > perfect :P. Oh, finally, you'd be one great game developer 'cause you pay attention to feedbacks ;) Well as you told it exactly lags from time to time. And I think I also find something. I remarked that when the kitten spins it gets even slower and that has nothing to do with your code but the SDL_rotozoom’s code. Well I have used SDL a lot but am not that familiar with SDL_rotozoom, and I pretty much think that < SDL_ Series > suck; I prefer to use my own engine. Well that’s it and yeah test build works < almost > perfect :P.

Oh, finally, you’d be one great game developer ’cause you pay attention to feedbacks ;)

]]> By: petri.purho http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/postmortems/post-cacodemon#comment-965 petri.purho Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:17:42 +0000 http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/?p=30#comment-965 Ok here's a test build for you to test if it speeds up the game: <a href="http://www.kloonigames.com/temp/cacodemon_testb.zip" rel="nofollow">http://www.kloonigames.com/temp/cacodemon_testb.zip</a> I came up with a theory that could explain why cacodemon lags on your computer, but it isn't fixed on this build :) Does the game run smoothly for a while or does it suffer constantly from a bad performance. In other words is it laggish all the time or just from time to time? If it lags from time to time, then I might know the reason... Ok here’s a test build for you to test if it speeds up the game:
http://www.kloonigames.com/temp/cacodemon_testb.zip

I came up with a theory that could explain why cacodemon lags on your computer, but it isn’t fixed on this build :) Does the game run smoothly for a while or does it suffer constantly from a bad performance. In other words is it
laggish all the time or just from time to time?

If it lags from time to time, then I might know the reason…

]]> By: petri.purho http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/postmortems/post-cacodemon#comment-964 petri.purho Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:48:53 +0000 http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/?p=30#comment-964 Oh that explains it, why I had little trouble understanding your comment :) I thought it was my limited understanding of the English language :) That's true it's very interesting that the newer executables run much slower. I can't really figure out why is that. But it's true that I'm not a very high-end PC person :D My current computer is so old, that I'm too embarrassed to even post it's specs. I should really update my PC, it could even help me out with the development. At the moment I'm compiling for you a new test version, but it takes a little while so I'll post here when I have it running and zipped. Hopefully this new version works a little better on your over the top computer :D Oh that explains it, why I had little trouble understanding your comment :) I thought it was my limited understanding of the English language :)
That’s true it’s very interesting that the newer executables run much slower. I can’t really figure out why is that.

But it’s true that I’m not a very high-end PC person :D My current computer is so old, that I’m too embarrassed to even post it’s specs. I should really update my PC, it could even help me out with the development.

At the moment I’m compiling for you a new test version, but it takes a little while so I’ll post here when I have it running and zipped. Hopefully this new version works a little better on your over the top computer :D

]]> By: Decipher http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/postmortems/post-cacodemon#comment-963 Decipher Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:25:59 +0000 http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/?p=30#comment-963 First of all my first post seems a little bit out-of-english because i discovered that wordpress does eat the content between the < and > characters which I use as quotation marks. By the way. The interesting part is the original executable works almost perfect but the test builds are more slower than the original one :). Interesting isn't it? I think you don't like high-end PeeCees :P. First of all my first post seems a little bit out-of-english because i discovered that wordpress does eat the content between the < and > characters which I use as quotation marks.

By the way. The interesting part is the original executable works almost perfect but the test builds are more slower than the original one :). Interesting isn’t it? I think you don’t like high-end PeeCees :P.

]]> By: petri.purho http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/postmortems/post-cacodemon#comment-962 petri.purho Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:15:19 +0000 http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/?p=30#comment-962 I honestly don't know why the game lags on your machine. It "shouldn't" do that :), your computer is way past the required specs for the game. The physics model is actually a bit easier on this game that it is on the others, so the only explanation I have for lagging is that my code and your hardware don't mix :) If you haven't already tried, could you download the <a href="http://www.kloonigames.com/temp/cacodemon_testpack.zip" rel="nofollow">test builds</a> and test if they also lag on your computer? That's pretty much all the tips I have for getting the game to run. I honestly don’t know why the game lags on your machine. It “shouldn’t” do that :), your computer is way past the required specs for the game.

The physics model is actually a bit easier on this game that it is on the others, so the only explanation I have for lagging is that my code and your hardware don’t mix :)
If you haven’t already tried, could you download the test builds and test if they also lag on your computer? That’s pretty much all the tips I have for getting the game to run.

]]> By: Decipher http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/postmortems/post-cacodemon#comment-961 Decipher Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:28:03 +0000 http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/?p=30#comment-961 Oops, forgot the part sorry for double-posting. There it goes : - Intel Pentium 4, 3.6 GHZ - 1GB GeForce 7950 GX2 - 2GB RAM Oops, forgot the part sorry for double-posting. There it goes :

- Intel Pentium 4, 3.6 GHZ
- 1GB GeForce 7950 GX2
- 2GB RAM

]]> By: Decipher http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/postmortems/post-cacodemon#comment-960 Decipher Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:24:06 +0000 http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/?p=30#comment-960 Well, I'm not sure what physics calculations go behind the game but compared to other games of yours interestingly Cacodemon was damn slow on my machine [specs are below]. Plus to this, since colors and pleasures can't be discussed I would prefer the mode to the kitten grilling :). Finally, sounds a lot more funnier than ; you know the latter sounds erm kinda disgusting :P. Well that's it, here's my two cents. Well, I’m not sure what physics calculations go behind the game but compared to other games of yours interestingly Cacodemon was damn slow on my machine [specs are below]. Plus to this, since colors and pleasures can’t be discussed I would prefer the mode to the kitten grilling :). Finally, sounds a lot more funnier than ; you know the latter sounds erm kinda disgusting :P.

Well that’s it, here’s my two cents.

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